Why feel guilt when I’m changing the world? – Reimagining Hustle with Kristie Shelley

Roxanne Merket: Podcasting during school when my house is quiet enough to work, this is Reimagining Hustle. A podcast for entrepreneurial parents, creating a life where business and parenthood live peacefully in the same space. I’m your host Roxanne Merket. A mom of two micro-business coach and serial entrepreneur on a journey to prove that it is possible to do what you love without sacrificing all your precious time.

Let’s do this. 

Welcome back to the Reimagining Hustle podcast. I can’t wait for you to meet my guest today. I have Kristie Shelley with me, Kristie, how you doing?

Kristie Shelley: Hello, I’m doing fabulous on this spring day. How are you?

Roxanne Merket: I’m doing really good. It’s so fun. I know. We’re we have the advantage of being on video. This is an audio podcast, but I get to see this bright blue background. It’s nice and sunny there. It’s just so fun. So it’s, I feel like it’s like all of this spring, summertime energy, which is so much fun. So Kristie, will you just dive right in?

Will you tell us about you, what it is you do, the work that you do and your journey to get there.

[00:01:10] Tell us about you and your journey

Kristie Shelley: Oh, my goodness. How many podcasts are we

Roxanne Merket: Right. It’s a super loaded question, right?

Kristie Shelley: That’s a loaded question. Yeah, well, uh, I think the best thing to do is to kind of start at the beginning. And so I I’m in education. That’s my field. Um, I used to be a teacher and I, um, then eventually went into the world of publishing.

So like educational publishing. And for about a decade, I traveled the country and helped teachers. So I would go in classrooms and I would coach and help them with various, you know, using our programs essentially. And I spent a lot of time. With intervention, which at the moment, at that time, I was like, Hmm, this is interesting.

Why are we working on prevention? Like, why are we working on intervention? And it was usually in reading, reading intervention. So moving on, I go on to do something very adventurous. I quit my job and become an entrepreneur and my best friend and I actually did this together. She also worked at the same company.

That’s where we met and we decided to make our own publishing company. And so we created our own company. Um, and we. Developed and sold a program for English language learners. So we call them

Roxanne Merket: as a second language kind of learners. Okay.

Kristie Shelley: yes. We call them emergent bilinguals. And I won’t go down that road, but it’s just a more positive view of these learners.

And so we created a program to help them with English. We were super lucky and we got bought by a very well-known educational technology company. And so I currently am a full-time gig with them. We partnered with them to take our content and, you know, use their assets to create a new and even more amazing program for emergent bilingual students.

But as soon as I quit my day job, we found out I was pregnant.

Roxanne Merket: Okay.

Kristie Shelley: so my entrepreneurial world has been, you know, kind of simultaneously becoming a parent as well for the first

Roxanne Merket: talk about having two babies at once. Right? Was this your first baby?

Kristie Shelley: Exactly. Yes. We’re. We just have one. One and done. So, um, this was, you know, yeah, it was two babies at the same time, literally. And, um, so all the reason I gave this background was because it leads to my side hustle that I do now, which is called The Mom Advantage. And I realized after becoming a mother that not every mom knew the things that you could do at home.

To make sure your student, your student, your child, when they became a student, never became one of those intervention students and reading.

Roxanne Merket: Got it. So focusing on that prevention.

Kristie Shelley: Exactly. So it all just kind of came to me and I was in a. A mom’s group, um, which I highly recommend every mother going, joining some sort of moms group. And as our children were growing, you know, let’s say we were sitting at lunch together.

We would do that often, like take our kids and go grab lunch together, this crazy group of us. And to fill time and to keep them entertained, I would play some games with them and like activities with them. And it was all on building these pre reading skills that every child needs. But not every mom knows.

And so my friends would be like, Christie, what are you doing? Like, why do you always do these rhyming games? And like, well, that builds phonological awareness. They’re like phono- what? And they had no idea what I was talking about. So I was like, oh, so not everyone knows about these things, but because of my background in being a teacher, And coaching teachers in this exact area.

I knew what my daughter needed before she ever started school. Like what she needed before she got into kindergarten before she got into first grade to help out her teachers to help her on her reading journey. So that’s how the mom advantage came to be, because I thought, you know, we have an advantage.

Like we have them these first five years of their life at minimum. And that’s the biggest brain growth time. Like let’s take advantage of this. And so I started filming. My daughter and I played some activities that will help build prereading skills. And so now that’s my platform. I show moms like really fun, no materials, no preparation.

Like this is like in the car, waiting for the subway. Like, you know, whatever, wherever you might be, little things you can do that will make a difference to help your little one, be ready for reading.

Roxanne Merket: That’s so cool. So can you give us an example of one of these things? Like, is there something that might translate well to an audio podcast? For example?

Kristie Shelley: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. How old are your kiddos?

Roxanne Merket: Uh, I have eight and three, so we’ve probably talked about the three-year-old.

Kristie Shelley: Yeah, like, yeah, kind of right in the middle. So, uh, the alpha let’s talk the alphabet. Let’s let’s target your three-year-old here. Let’s talk to the alphabet. So this is not a trick question, but how many letters are in the alphabet?

Roxanne Merket: 26.

Kristie Shelley: Okay. So when we are teaching our little ones, alphabetic knowledge, those 26 letters are very important for understanding the name of a letter, because they have to know the name, right.

They have to be able to say the name and they also need to know the sound that that letter makes that’s really important. Obviously you have to. Be able to say it and speak it in order to read it.

Roxanne Merket: Certainly. Yeah.

Kristie Shelley: proven. Yeah. Okay. But when it comes to the next part of alphabetic knowledge, it’s, you have to know the shape of the letters to write.

You have to be able to recognize what an, a looks like. Would it be, looks like, well, it’s a little ones. Those are just squiggly letters on a page. So you have to think of the alphabet as actually not 26 letters, but 52,

Roxanne Merket: Because of the capital

Kristie Shelley: of uppercase. And a lower case. Okay. And I like to say 52 plus

Roxanne Merket: all the different sounds that the letters make, I’m guessing,

Kristie Shelley: oh.

Be like visually like think of font. Like how many ways have you seen a lowercase? A.

Roxanne Merket: oh, that’s a

Kristie Shelley: Or like a lowercase Q. So it’s that little subtle knowledge so that when you’re in a book and you see, oh, like let’s find all the lowercase, A’s like, let’s get a different book and let’s see if we can find them in here.

It really helps them to learn their letters faster because you’re spending just that little tiny time helping them. And they’re going to play one quick game. So this is one of the games that we do, um, at the mom advantage. Again, one of the big things that we have to do is teach them off that acknowledge and being able to, have them understand that letters are their own thing.

Which is hard because the first thing we do with the alphabet is teach them the alphabet song. And to them, that’s like a song it’s just fun. It’s just like one long, big, fun game. Right? So there’s a really fun, easy, quick thing you can do. And you can play a game called sing to AB or C. And in fact, I have a book coming out this summer that plays this game with them.

So you pick a letter. So give me a letter.

Roxanne Merket: Uh, R I’m going to pick R. My favorite.

Kristie Shelley: All right. So we would sing the alphabet and we’re going to stop at ours. So everybody gets to hear us sing. You ready? Okay. We’ll be off key. It’s okay, here we go. A, B,

Roxanne Merket: C, D E F G

Kristie Shelley: H I J K L M N O, P E Q. And then you stop. I know, sorry, everyone we’re off because we’re a

Roxanne Merket: I know the zoom connection.

Kristie Shelley: is going to be connection, but they’re probably like LA LA LA. Okay. So that is seeing like you sing your way to a letter because it gets them to recognize, oh, there’s actual meaningful units in this fun little song we

Roxanne Merket: Got it.

Kristie Shelley: Them to stop and recognize. We think that learning the alphabet is really easy, but it’s a challenge.

It’s actually a really difficult thing. So I spend time on the alphabet, but then like with your eight year old, I have an eight year old as well. And we actually work a ton on phonemic awareness. So like, could you, you know, can they recognize the beginning sound in a word, like if you were to say what’s the first sound in chat, or if you were to say, um, what’s the medial sound?

What’s the vowel sound in this word? Vowel sounds are really hard to hear. So getting them to kind of tune their ear to sounds. And then I find myself now. I mean, it’s been a journey because now my daughter’s in second grade and it’s like, I find myself all these games. Using them in a totally different way with her, like with her homework, you know, and the way she sounds out words, because they start to get multi-syllabic and then they’re getting longer and bigger.

And so she’s just learning to use some of those skills that we’ve been doing since she was two or three.

Roxanne Merket: Wow. That’s incredible too. And I appreciate you giving us actual examples as well. I think that’s so helpful. It’s interesting. I’m kind of reflecting back on when I remember the day that my daughter made the connection that. Oh, these shapes correspond to sounds. And that was like, it was like, I watched her little mind just go, wow.

Right. Like it was, it was incredible. And so that’s such a fun thing to, to, to recognize that this doesn’t have to be like, let’s sit down and let’s read a book it’s so fun. It can be so fun. Right? Not that reading books. Isn’t fun. We love books at my house, but you know, it’s, it’s not worksheets and things like that.

It’s actually playing game.

Kristie Shelley: it’s playing. Yeah. All my games. It’s I didn’t, there’s no worksheets, there’s no paper. I mean, even practicing letters, I teach moms. Like you can write them on your hand, you can write them in the air. You know, it’s just like, there’s so many other ways to just get these simple little basic shifts in your life to really make a difference for them in the long run.

Roxanne Merket: that’s so cool. That’s so cool. So how do you work with people then? So you have the mom advantage. Do you coach moms, do you have like programs that, that you teach different ways? Tell us about what that looks like.

[00:11:40] What does working with you look like?

Kristie Shelley: Yeah. So I, yes, I do coach, but I also, um, have a lot of other resources. Like I have a free Instagram page, obviously, because there, I can show you. Um, mom’s exactly the activities that I do, but to really customize, um, I have a quiz that you can take and then it will, um, there’s, uh, an actual like sequence you can go through, like, these are the activities for your child at that level.

And like, do, do this set for them in this order. And then that way they can kind of build their skills to the next level. And the next thing be ready for reading.

Roxanne Merket: That’s fantastic. And I know I’m going to ask you for the links at the end so that people don’t have to remember the links through all of this, but we’ll make sure that we link to that quiz as well. I actually definitely snuck a peek beforehand to see, Hey, you know, I always I’m a snooper. And so it was, um, anyway, so that was really fun to look at and kind of explore.

That’s so fun. So you’ve been on this journey for eight years now.

Kristie Shelley: Yeah.

Roxanne Merket: that’s what that’s when you write is that cause if I’m gathering your, if your, your child is eight,

Kristie Shelley: So nine years, because 10 months before.

Roxanne Merket: There you go. Okay. So, so you worked, I mean, you, you’ve had such an interesting career trajectory and I appreciate you walking us through kind of each section of that.

I feel like it’s in my brain, as you explained it, I kind of grouped it into sections and I would love to know what does success look like for you now, and has that changed over this course of your, of your career?

[00:13:07] What does success look like?

Kristie Shelley: A hundred percent. Yes. So I would say it’s totally changed. Obviously with my first business, it was, it was money. You know, it really was. I mean, I’ll be totally honest. And I mean, we all love money. There’s nothing wrong with money, but it was, you know, like how can we grow this? It was to reach more students for sure.

And then at the end it was, oh, we just sold our company. Two women, you know, entrepreneurs like didn’t have a clue what we were doing, but we learned because there’s so many amazing resources out there today. And it was at the end of the day, okay. We sold our business for X amount of money. It was about the money.

Um, but today it’s so different. It’s just all internal, you know, I’ve been able to just chill and look at. You know, like who I’m helping really like how I’m reaching it’s it’s that mom emailing me and saying, thank you. Like this has made such a difference. I, uh, one mom in particular shared a story like.

Child’s preschool teacher was like, what are you doing different? Like all of a sudden, like I’m noticing the shift, you know, in her and their daughter. So it’s, that’s success to me. Like I’m a helper, I’m a giver. And so when I can help someone and make their lives better, like that’s a hundred percent success in my business world.

Roxanne Merket: Yeah, that makes so much sense too. And to understand, I love that you addressed this. Like there’s nothing wrong with wanting to earn money, right? Money is a great indicator of success, but there are also these. Indicators. And that’s why I love asking this question is because from all of the people that I’ve interviewed at success looks so different to every one of us.

So I appreciate you sharing what that looks like now to you. Kristie, I want to ask you about being a parent during this entrepreneur journey and how so obviously, like you, you explained how it kind of shifted everything in your business and, and shifting to being an entrepreneur and then selling the business and all of these things.

[00:15:08] How has this whole process changed you as a person?

Roxanne Merket: But how has this whole process changed you as a person?

Kristie Shelley: I’m a lot more resourceful. Like I know that there is, there’s an answer out there somewhere right. For everything. And I think I started that. I mean, remember that the, the parenthood and entrepreneurial ship, like, was that simultaneous.

Roxanne Merket: time, same time, same place.

Kristie Shelley: yeah, so while I’m, you know, I knew like looking up resources on breastfeeding or whatever, I, I kind of transferred those to my entrepreneurial world, too.

You know, being able to research anything and, and trust people that they have the knowledge that will help me into that next phase of whatever I need to go into. So, um, Yeah. I think just, just knowing where to go for things. And also, you know, we live in a society where we don’t have a village to help us raise our children.

Like, although I wish my mother lived with me, she’s coming in here on Sunday. I’m so excited to see her and it in a year. Um, I wish in my father, I wish my parents lived here, but they don’t, that’s just not how our society works. So I think I realized like I need a village. So I built my own. Whether that was through like entrepreneurial.

I mean, I was lucky I had my best friend and my first adventure and she is like, side-by-side with me through this as well. Um, we also work full-time together in the business that bought us. So, you know, we are very intertwined. Um, and you know, and, and this side thing that I do, you know, she’s my sounding board.

So like just having her that and her for that, and then having other friends in the entrepreneurial world, To talk to, and then just having moms, of course, they have this amazing mom group that I spoke about earlier. We’ve known each other since our kids were well, some of them like six weeks old, um, another mom I met when we were pregnant and we’re still, you know, just raising our little ones together.

And so I think that changed me. Like I realized I needed to build my own village. In order to, you know, keep my entrepreneurial life going, but also to keep my mother life going and to keep me safe and someone,

Roxanne Merket: Yes. Yes. Right. You just need to have people you can be grownups with sometimes.

Kristie Shelley: yeah.

Roxanne Merket: Oh, thank you for that reminder too. It’s interesting. I feel like just kind of as a, on a personal note, that’s the whole reason that I started this podcast was because I needed to build that village myself. Right. Because it’s lonely to be a mom and an entrepreneur.

Nobody gets it. Right. Your entrepreneur friends don’t get what it’s like to be a mom and your mom friends don’t get what it’s like to be an entrepreneur. And so it’s difficult to find that. Nice unique spot where those worlds just collide.

Kristie Shelley: Yeah. To find both, to find a mom that’s a solo preneur and, and a mother is, is challenging. And I, anytime I find when I like grasp, it’s just a different world. Yeah. It really is.

Roxanne Merket: Yeah. And so, as I know that there’s lots of us listening right now. So just know you are not alone in this because we’ve got, I mean, I feel like episode after episode, I’m realizing how many of us there really are. We’re just kind of lurking in the shadows.

Kristie Shelley: We’ll be your village reach us.

Roxanne Merket: Kristie, have you experienced guilt around these two babies happening at the same time?

[00:18:37] Guilt! Let’s talk about it.

Kristie Shelley: Yes. Yes, yes and no. I, I would say, I mean, I think. Definition in the dictionary of mom, guilt has to be written in there somewhere. Right. It just comes with everything. I mean, I feel way more guilty about other things in motherhood, the entrepreneurial side, like what I’ve done from day one. And this sounds very like, I’m an Aquarian, so it’s like very Aquarius, like I’m out to change the world.

You know, like that’s, that’s what I’m here to do. And like, I know that’s my soul’s purpose. So I’ve, I feel like I’ve done that with English language learners. Like I’ve, I’ve put this product out into the world with my best friend. That’s just cha literally changing lives. And like, I I’ve, I’ve done that.

And now I have the mom advantage where I’m changing lives, like one mom at a time. So like the guilt doesn’t really linger there because I, how can you be guilty about changing the world?

Roxanne Merket: Mm. Hmm. I feel like you, mic dropped right there. Right? That’s the one that’s going to go on the t-shirt and sparkly letters. Why would I feel guilty? I’m changing the world.

Kristie Shelley: But of course there’s always guilt, like time, you know, I have a full-time job. And so the mom advantage and it’s, you know, I lay up at three in the morning, like writing ideas down because it’s just something that’s constantly in me. Um, but it’s, I do it on the night and weekends. And so there are times that I, I feel a little guilty.

I’m like, I’m so sorry. Like, let me, I’ve got to get these ideas out and then once they’re done, we’ll go swing on the swings. Like I promise, I promise.

Roxanne Merket: It’s refreshing to hear though, that idea of. Yes, the guilt is there, but also you kind of acknowledge, like, I don’t know if you realize this, but as you were, and again, I have the advantage of seeing you on video. Right. But as you kind of talked about it, you almost like with your hands, put guilt in its own little box.

Right. And just talked about everything else. And that was really fun to witness because you do, you just put guilt in its own little box, like yeah. It’s there, why would I feel guilty when I’m changing the world? I love that mantra so much. That’s fantastic. Kristie. What do you wish people knew about running a business, being an entrepreneur and being a parent at the same time?

[00:20:56] What do you wish people knew about running a business and being an entrepreneur at the same time?

Kristie Shelley: Um, you know,

It’s hard for sure. Um, you become a really good scheduler if you weren’t before. Um, I love spreadsheets, so embrace them if you, because you need them for a lot of things in life schedules, kids schedules. Um, but I don’t want people to forget, you know, you have these roles, you’re an entrepreneur, maybe you’re the CEO of your business, or even the COO and whatever hat you wear.

And then you wear the hat of a. But you’re also a human. And I think sometimes we worry too much about these other things, because there are both our babies, right. As you mentioned before, it’s like, but you have to take care of yourself. It’s that oxygen mask for us. And if you don’t, it’s so cliche, but it is so true.

I fought tooth and nail to get an amazing tub in my master bath

Roxanne Merket: Yeah.

Kristie Shelley: because I like, that’s what I need. Like that’s my get in the tub. Get out that book and chill. I’m very outgoing, very social, but I need that. Quiet just me time to recharge to be able to be social and outgoing again. And so I think everyone needs to remember to find that thing that recharges them, because it keeps you creative, right?

For your entrepreneurial side, it gives you energy to play with your kids. So there’s all you need to take care of yourself to do both of those things.

Roxanne Merket: I have goosebumps as you share that with me. It’s so true. Remember, you are a human first,

Kristie Shelley: Human first.

Roxanne Merket: Kristie. I want to ask you a question about the name of this podcast. So the name of this podcast is Reimagining Hustle. And I named it that because when I first started my entrepreneurial journey, I wasn’t a parent.

I started it knowing everything about parenting because I wasn’t one yet, right. One of the best. And I really bought into this hustle culture. This go, go, go, you stop business stops, like work as hard as you can, you know, work hard, play harder, but don’t play because then. That nonsense. And then I had my first child and my whole world stopped and I knew instantly I had to re-imagine this concept of hustle if I was going to survive.

And I would love to know how you, re-imagine this idea of hustle.

[00:23:19] Reimagined Hustle – what does it look like?

Kristie Shelley: I suppose is a funny word. I feel like it’s a very messy. Word, right. Um, I don’t, so I’ve, I’ve worked. I feel like my entire life, so I don’t know if that’s considered a hustling, but I, I it’s, I don’t know how old you have to be to, um, work in the state of California where I grew up, I think like 14. So I think I started working.

I was 14 and I’ve never stopped, but I think hustle has shifted in my mind in the way that. If I do the opposite, I think more happens. So instead of hustling, I actually try to chill on things because I feel like if I stress out, if I’m trying to work really hard and get something done, I’ll make mistakes.

I’ll rush, you know, but if I just chill and know that eventually. It’s going to happen. It’s going to work out. The universe always has my back and it’s going to work out the way it’s meant to be then. It, it just changes. It changes the whole dynamic. So I feel like, like hustle is like, like I feel fast, you know, like my heart starts to race when I hear the word hustle,

Roxanne Merket: Yeah, mine too.

Kristie Shelley: but if, yeah, but, but it’s true.

And I think that every mom feels that they’re constantly hustling around life. Um, but when it comes to building my business, like I’ve had I’ve had to learn to chill because I’ve been doing this since my daughter. Three. And she’s now eight and it’s still my side gig.

Roxanne Merket: Yup.

Kristie Shelley: I mean? It’s like, I just know, like, it will blossom when it’s ready to blossom because I’ve done, you know, I just have to just give it grace and space to grow on its own.

Roxanne Merket: I love that you just used the word space and grace, I have that’s on the back of my chucks. I have a pair of converse sneakers, and I have space and grace that’s like my mantra for myself. So the fact that you just use those two words, especially like I already was, was along this journey. I was like, yes, yes.

Tell me why don’t you use those words? Get out of my head, I’m here for it. Like this is awesome. Oh, Kristie, you are just, I’m, I’m inspired by you. And so many ways. Will you give us a pep talk for other parents that are on this entrepreneurial journey?

Kristie Shelley: I had to take a drink of water for this because my husband jokes with me that I keep my soapbox in my back pocket.

Roxanne Merket: Oh, uh, okay. Hold on. Let

Kristie Shelley: you have one, two?

Roxanne Merket: Let me settle in. I’m ready for it.

Kristie Shelley: No, I’m totally getting, he does say that, but I will not get on my soap box. Um, so a pep talk for entrepreneurial moms. 

[00:26:11] Pep Talk

Kristie Shelley: Here’s the thing. When I was probably about six or seven, I had my first gig. I had my first entrepreneurial experience. I took my red wagon and I put my crayons and paper in and I went and knocked on my neighbor’s doors.

I will draw you a picture. Will you give me money? And I would draw their portrait. And I remember my neighbor, Lily, I would take my wagon over. I probably did. She probably bought 10 portraits from me.

Roxanne Merket: That’s adorable.

Kristie Shelley: Yeah. So that was my first gig. And so the reason that I’m saying that is because I think that. All children kind of have that imagination and inspiration inside of them.

So the best thing that we could do as moms and entrepreneurs is share the journey with our children, tell them what you’re doing. Tell them, you know, the good, the bad, you know, I love Canva. Not that we’re being sponsored by them right now, but we could be me too there. It’s amazing. And I will literally get on Canva and have my daughter help me make a design and like show her what I’m doing and show her where it goes, because I want her to know.

While you want me to go swing on the swing? Like this is what I’m doing and why I’m doing it. So I just share my journey with her. So it’s not a mystery. She loves it. I mean, she is the star of my company because she’s in every video and I do this for her, like, and that’s gonna make me cry, but it’s so true.

I mean, it is for her and all of her little human equals because we want them to be the best that they can be. So I’m teaching children. Teaching mothers to help teach their kids, you know, these reading skills, but I’m also modeling for my daughter, like what it is to, to help others and to inspire others.

In fact, so she started her own business because of this. She has, um, classes she’s going to teach kids, manners.

Roxanne Merket: Oh, I love this.

Kristie Shelley: Don’t you think that’s so cute? Um, she, she could use some help herself, but we won’t tell her that.

Roxanne Merket: you know what? Teaching is the best way to learn something.

Kristie Shelley: Exactly exactly. I’ve called her on it a few times, for sure. Um, and her dream, she loves to bake. She she’s way better baker. I don’t know how to bake. She knows how to bake. She wa that’s all she watches is the food network, like baking championships and whatever, and she wants to own her own bakery. And so we talk about.

All the time. And I try to show her in parallel and make it real for her. Like, this is what mommy’s doing, and this is how I’m doing it. And you can do the same, like sky’s the limit. So that’s my soapbox. Pep talk, share your journey with your kids because you could inspire them.

Roxanne Merket: I am so glad you pulled your soapbox out for us. This was, oh, this is just incredible. I lemme know the bakery opens because I want to be there for opening day. Right. That’s going to be really fun.

Kristie Shelley: Oh, she’s already tried to get me to start actual, like now, like a service, like deliveries, like mom, people can just pull up. They cause I mean like now, right with COVID

Roxanne Merket: to that entrepreneur spirit.

Kristie Shelley: She’s like we have a circle driveway. They can just drive right in. They could text me when they’re here.

Cause that’s what we have to do.

Roxanne Merket: wrong. Right. fully support this. If

Kristie Shelley: Okay. I’ll let you

Roxanne Merket: or website, you let me know. I got you. I’ll hook you up is fantastic. Kristie. I have, I. Just absolutely inspired by you by your story, by the way that you are changing the world. I know that you said that that’s your dream, but I know that you already are.

You’re changing individual worlds. You’re changing your world, the world of your daughter. Like this is just, it’s so fun to witness this from my side. So thank you for letting me into that today. And for all of the things that you’re doing in the world, we need to know where to find you. Tell us all the things.

Tell us where to get the quiz. Tell us where we can find you online on social media.

Kristie Shelley: Okay. So, um, themomadvantage.com is my website. And I know you said you were going to leave that there’s a quiz that pops up right away when you come on or you can scroll all the way to the bottom on every footer. You’ll see the link for the quiz. It’s just by really quick question. To kind of gauge where your little one is.

Um, I’m also coming out with a book this summer, so hopefully you, that will be glaring on right there on the homepage sailor. And, um, my Instagram is actually called before phonics. So we will link that in as well, but that’s where you can see all the videos. I obviously have videos on my website. There’s a link for free activities there, so you can kind of go there as well.

And if you just want to get to know me on a personal level, I do have a personal Instagram page called the mom advantage. So you could see my daughter and my husband and I, and all of our journeys and get.

Roxanne Merket: Awesome. And we’ll make sure it, like I said, we’ll link everything in the show notes so that you are very easy to find Kristie. Thank you for the gift of your time today. I know you have a lot going on and I appreciate the gift of your time and, and the wisdom that you’ve shared with us. All the ideas.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Kristie Shelley: Thank you and thank you for all that you’re doing. Thank you.

Roxanne Merket: Thanks for listening to Reimagining Hustle with Roxanne Merket. If you like the show and want more, check out reimagininghustle.com and please leave a review wherever you get your podcasts. We’ll be back next week with another episode. See you soon.